Usable security. Does it exist? That’s a question our CEO Todd McKinnon recently sat down to discuss with a16z’s Michael Copeland and Pindrop Security’s co-founder and CEO Vijay Balasubramaniyan. Whether it’s through an experience that’s almost invisible in a user’s workflow or the promise of simple security with an added authentication layer, security-minded companies like Okta are working to make solutions that are both powerful and easy to use. Recent high-profile breaches have heightened overall market awareness of security, not just within CSO and CISO communities, but with CEOs and boards of directors everywhere. The full podcast is below – but if you don’t have 30 minutes to listen in full, here are a few of the highlights. (If you want to catch a colorful discussion on the difference between a good and bad enchilada, a short history lesson on steam shovels and a convincing analogy on why bank.